My Unfortunate Experience With pv.body/Ellie {Review}

I wasn’t going to post this review, simply because I don’t really like to say mean things. I especially don’t like to say mean things about companies that are just starting out. But after three consecutive months of problems with pv.body, I felt I owed it to my readers to share my experience.

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I placed my first pv.body order on November 28, excited that I would have some new workout clothes to take with me to North Carolina over the holidays. I figured I would place the order and see how the first shipment looked before deciding whether or not to continue a subscription. All the hype about pv.body talked about getting awesome, name brand clothes at a discounted price ad I certainly wasn’t going to say no to Lululemon, especially since I haven’t actually taken the plunge to purchase any yet.

The first thing I noticed on my order confirmation was that the style of clothing I was set to receive was not the style I was told after the “Style Quiz” when I signed up. I emailed pv.body and a few days later got a generic email response with FAQs and a number to call if I still had questions. Strike one: If what I needed was in the FAQs, I would have found it when I looked at the FAQs before emailing. Also, it took you multiple days to send me a generic response?!

But still, not everyone looks at the FAQs, so I let it go and called customer service. I was pretty disappointed when I was told that the style quiz actually has no bearing on the clothes you receive and that everyone gets the same basic styles month by month. Strike two: So what was the point of all the questions asking where I like to work out and what kind of exercises I like to do if it isn’t going to inform the kind of clothing you send?

I decided to try to let that go too and waited patiently for my order to arrive. As of December 16 I had still not even received a shipping notification about my order, despite that the website indicated (and still indicates) that orders usually ship within 4-7 business days. At this point I emailed pv.body again (mistake) and again received a generic email. Frustrated, but gearing up for North Carolina, I let it go.

On December 28 I received a confirmation email thanking me for my second order when I still hadn’t received my first! Frantically I called pv.body and was told that my first order had recently shipped and I should be getting it soon. When I expressed my frustration over being charged for a second order before receiving my first order, I was told that orders would never process until the previous month’s order had shipped, but if I wanted to have more time between orders I would need to skip a month. So skip a month I did! I immediately canceled what would have been the January order well in advance so as to not take any chances. Strike 3: How can you let your orders get that backed up without notifying your customers at all and then proceeding with their subscription as usual?

At this point, after three strikes, I should have cancelled my account entirely, but I was still hopeful. So hopeful, in fact, I offered a month of pv.body to Karissa as a prize when she won the Muscle Building component in my Healthy Holidays Challenge. She gladly accepted and I contacted pv.body to figure out how to orchestrate this process. It wasn’t easy. I was told there was no way for me to purchase a gift card or pay for a special code for a free month, even though I had seen this on other blogs. I sucked it up and on 1/17 just created an account for Karissa, put in her preferences, and paid with my card. On 1/18 my credit card was charged and the order cleared on my online bank statement.

When I finally received my first order, over a month late, both pieces were the wrong size! While it is entirely possible that I put the size larger for the bottoms when I filled out my form, I knew there was no way I said I needed a size small top. I’m not delirious. So I logged on to my account to figure out a way to correct this, if my profile did in fact say size small. Unfortunately, there was nowhere for me to do that, so I had to call pv.body yet again. When I called the background noise was CRAZY! I could barely hear the customer service agent, who seemed irritated with me that I couldn’t hear over all the noise. I struggled through, “updated” my profile, and hung up.

A couple of days later I checked the tracking info for my second order and saw the delivery estimate was for the end of the day on 1/21. Well, 1/21 came and went with no pv.body delivery. Shocking. Finally, on January 28 I received my second order, again a month after the order had been placed and charged to my account. I wasn’t very excited to open the package, so I didn’t (at least for a day).

The next day, January 29, I got an email from Karissa. Not only had she not received her package, her tracking link said that there was no estimated delivery for her package. She had tried emailing them, but hadn’t received a response. At this point I was beyond frustrated. It’s one thing for me to not get my own packages in a timely manner, but when it starts affecting my readers I can’t stand for it.

I called pv.body and was again greeted by so much background noise that I couldn’t even hear the customer service representative. I asked her several times if she could go to a quieter location, but instead she just continued to try to talk to me at a louder volume. Finally I got my point across to her that the order had not been delivered, but I had been charged on January 18th. She explained that their stock had been delayed and would be shipping out as soon as possible. Not having it, I asked her if this was the third month the stock had been delayed since my two orders had also been delivered a month after they had been ordered. She got flustered and put a supervisor on the phone.

The supervisor apologized for the delay, but once I asked why this keeps happening on a regular basis, he started making excuses and blaming everyone except pv.body. It wasn’t a good look. He then told me that starting next month pv.body was going to be rolling out their own line of clothing, of comparable quality to the name brands they were currently carrying. He also said that starting next month they will no longer be charging people until orders had shipped. Glad you decided to do that AFTER you’ve been in business for several months. He assured me that Karissa’s order would be shipped within the next two days. I thanked him for his time and hung up. Then I proceeded to fully cancel my account.

As luck would have it, Heather posted an update about pv.body that same day. She’s an ambassador for pv.body so I was interested in her take. From her post:

pv.body is launching Ellie, a new clothing line made by the pv.body team. Starting on February 1st, Ellie will be the only brand being shipped out to you in your monthly subscription services. That means you will not be receiving brands like lululemon, NUX, or Nike in your monthly subscriptions. You will be receiving exclusively Ellie. The pv.body site will re-direct viewers to Ellie.com and current pv.body subscriptions will begin receiving the Ellie clothing line in their packages.

THAT was disappointing to read, for sure. It felt a bit like a bait and switch. “Sign up for pv.body to get workout clothes from brands like Lululemon and Nike at a discount!” to “Oh, just kidding, we can’t afford that anymore so even though your next shipment has probably already been billed, we’re not sending those brands anymore.”

I also noticed some of the comments were from people who felt the same way. I also saw a comment directing me to Sonya’s post where she reviewed the Ellie line. She wasn’t impressed. From a hole next to the stitching to uneven seams and raveling thread, the capris she received didn’t seem high quality, and definitely not comparable to what I’ve heard about Lululemon and other brands pv.body marketed itself as providing when people started signing up.

I was beyond disappointed at this point, so imagine how upset I was when I got home and opened my second (and final) package from pv.body to find that the capris I received were the Ellie brand (even though it hadn’t officially launched yet). My capris were also poor quality, with the seams not lining up and the thread raveling before even being worn.

I’m so angry. It goes way beyond disappointed at this point. The worst part is that now that Ellie launched today (pvbody.com now redirects to ellie.com), I can’t even log in to check the status of Karissa’s order and see if it actually shipped!

I can’t even begin to say how upset I am with the lack of professionalism in this company. They haven’t been completely honest with their customers, their customer service is abysmal, and now the quality of their product is awful. Other people’s experiences with pv.body and Ellie may have been different, but my own has been so terrible that I couldn’t stay silent. If you feel compelled to try out Ellie, you should. Just know that I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone.

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30 Comments

  1. Apples and Arteries February 1, 2013 3:31 pm Reply

    Wow – that’s all really terrible. I’ve read a lot of similar posts.

    http://applesandarteries.com

    • Becki February 1, 2013 3:33 pm Reply

      It makes me so sad because I was really excited about the company. I guess they can’t all be fantastic, right?

  2. Rachael @ Ready To Get Sweaty February 1, 2013 3:42 pm Reply

    i’ve heard so many great things about PV in the past, but lately ive been hearing more of this. so horrible and i feel bad you’ve had to go through this.

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    • Becki February 1, 2013 3:44 pm Reply

      Makes me wonder if they got “too big for their britches” early on and couldn’t keep up with the demand at the prices/quality they promised. It’s really too bad.

  3. Renee @BendifulBlog February 1, 2013 3:53 pm Reply

    I need to write my apology post at some point. Granted my first box (October) was awesome and I paid for it as a customer. But today I got my “return” top after over a month waiting and throwing a temper tantrum to customer service (4 times). And the noise on the customer service line..I got that too what was it?? It was SOOOO loud I could barely hear her, I got off the phone to end my suffering. Oh and the Top It’s AWFUL it doesn’t fit correctly and is UGLY there is NO other word for it. I’m trying to log on to cancel my account but the site has been down for HOURS. I’m thinking about call the AG in their state to complain. I got an email today that you have to wait till you get a link to log on to the site (like pinterest used to) because there is such demand. I’m scared it’s demand for people to abandon ship.

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    • Becki February 1, 2013 3:58 pm Reply

      Sorry you had a bad experience too, Renee. They really need to do something about this. Or at least someone does.

  4. Caitlin February 1, 2013 4:12 pm Reply

    WOW Becki! I have to admit that for me personally, I have had a good pvBody experience. But I think they made a mistake in reaching out to SO many bloggers before they were ready to grow. They definitely do not have the capacity to handle large volumes of customers. Look what happened last night when they launched Ellie – their servers totally crashed! Lack of preparation seems to be their downfall and they don’t want to own up to it. Since I’ve still not had a bad experience personally I’m still an Amabassador, but plan to wait for my Ellie review before I continue to promote my sign-up link. I hope to get my outfit soon (I sent in my choice of top/bottom and sizes so we’ll see….) and when I do I’ll give my honest opinion. I appreciate yours! It’s honorable that you stay true to you as a blogger.

    http://www.caitplusate.com

    • Becki February 1, 2013 4:15 pm Reply

      Thanks for that, Caitlin! I waited and waited to write the review because I honestly didn’t want to write something bad. I even casually mentioned once when I was on the phone with them that I was a blogger and wanted to give them a fair shake before I posted and my experience was still terrible. I’m genuinely glad your experience has been positive! Thanks so much for the support.

  5. Karissa K. February 1, 2013 7:03 pm Reply

    I’ll be honest: I’m afraid to see what I get! If I had known Becki would have such hassle, I would’ve worked out a different prize… Sigh. I’ll keep you posted.

    http://www.grammarissa.com

  6. Kelsa @ Kelsa On The Run February 1, 2013 9:45 pm Reply

    That’s terrible! Thanks for sharing! I’m sure it sucked posting this, but it shows us that you are HONEST (which I already knew anyway!) and will tell the bad with the good!

    http://kelsa.blogspot.com

  7. Mindy Artze February 1, 2013 9:46 pm Reply

    I guess this is one of those moments where I am thankful that I didn’t get asked to be a part of this. When everyone started talking about it, I wanted in… well now I am glad I am not. I was a little confused in your post because you said you bought your friend a month of Lululemon. I didn’t know what you were talking about. Was that a typo or is there a monthly something with Lululemon too? Or did I just read it wrong… I am tired, lol so that could be the case. Thanks!

    http://mindysfitnessjourney.blogspot.com

    • Becki February 3, 2013 4:28 pm Reply

      I bought her a month to pv.body as a prize for winning the Healthy Holiday Challenge. Sorry for the confusion!

  8. Meagan February 2, 2013 4:14 pm Reply

    Darn girl, I am so sorry you had a negative experience. I manage ActiveVixen.com and heard a lot of similar stories. I personally received their clothing, however I feel your pain. Keep your chin up – thank you for sharing your story. xox

    http://www.activevixen.com

    • Becki February 3, 2013 4:29 pm Reply

      Thanks for the support!

  9. Karissa K February 6, 2013 9:33 am Reply

    My order, which was ordered from Becky on January 17th and supposedly shipped on January 31st, is supposed to arrive on Friday, February 8th (according to the Fed Ex tracking number). Just FYI.

    http://www.grammarissa.com

    • Becki February 7, 2013 3:35 pm Reply

      Keep us updated, Karissa! Fingers crossed.

  10. Amy February 6, 2013 6:31 pm Reply

    Thank you for this – I’m having a horrible experience and I’m mad. My January order says complete and I have no package! I’m going to cancel as soon as I can recoup my money.

    I hope more people complain and the company takes action. This brand change has been a disaster. No one can be your customer if you never send them products.

    • Becki February 7, 2013 3:33 pm Reply

      Ugh, hope you can cancel soon!

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  12. Katy Widrick February 19, 2013 3:38 pm Reply

    UGH, so frustrating. Good for you for documenting all of it and laying it out here…I’ve had a similar experience (not nearly as nightmare-ish, but still crappy) and I’m so bummed because I had very high expectations.
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  13. Julie @ ROJ Running February 19, 2013 3:39 pm Reply

    I went to the Ellie site just to see what they had launded and to make sure they didn’t auto restart my membership. My previous PV info logged me in so yours should still work to check on orders. Also we need to all get the word out bc ppl know how bad pv was but lots of them don’t know Ellie is the same company under a name change. So sad and frustrating
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  14. Tara @ A Daily Dose of Fit February 19, 2013 4:02 pm Reply

    It says above that you offered “a month of Lululemon” to Karissa. Do you mean Ellie/PVbody?

    http://www.adailydoseoffit.com

    • Becki February 19, 2013 4:03 pm Reply

      Oops, yep. I meant to fix that the other day and totally forgot. Thanks for reminding me! That’s what happens when you write something while you’re upset, I suppose.

    • Becki February 19, 2013 4:04 pm Reply

      Fixed! Thanks again.

  15. Kelly @ Cupcake Kelly’s February 20, 2013 5:31 pm Reply

    Thanks for sharing Becki. When I write my review, do you mind if I link to yours?
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    • Becki February 21, 2013 8:45 am Reply

      Go right ahead! I feel like the more info people have, the better.

  16. Sonya April 3, 2013 12:39 am Reply

    I’m so glad you’re getting the word out to consumers to be cautious with this company. It infuriates me that pvbody/Ellie continues to get away with poor business practices and horrendous customer service. I continue to see negative comments on Ellie’s Facebook page about late shipments or being overcharged and I’m glad I got out and got my refund as quickly as I did.
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  17. Irene April 4, 2013 5:44 pm Reply

    Going thru this right now! I am currently waiting on my second shipment that was ‘complete’ weeks ago, but has not shipped yet. And month 3 is in the que for the middle of the month this month.

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  18. Tess May 13, 2013 8:27 pm Reply

    My experience was almost identical! Signed up in November and by February had only 2 orders, both of which were wrong! I’ve given them some time since the pricing is so good but I’ve never seen anything like it! Called and wrote cust support more than haf a dozen times and they do not follow through. Very frustrating.

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